Talk:CelebriD&D with Joe Manganiello

Categorizing this episode
So I mentioned this in a comment on this page, but the fact that this is the only special (only episode, even) that does not have an episode code or an entry in the episode URL switcher creates a number of headaches for my wiki parsing. If it is an episode of Critical Role, it should be assigned an episode code like SxNN or CNENNNx (where N is a constant and x is a letter). If it is not, then it should be a new category like Category:Other episodes or something else to denote it is not produced by Critical Role. SeiverEl (talk) 21:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * It was not an episode of Critical Role, but of a program called CelebriD&D. Some of the CR cast appeared on some episodes and played their CR characters in it. The argument is that it should be considered canon because when Arkhan appeared in, Percy and Keyleth introduced him based on their meeting with him in CelbriD&D as someone they worked with years ago, before meeting the others. However, the timeline for actual canonicity (canon-ness? is that a word?) breaks down because Keyleth and Percy didn't actually know each other before meeting the rest of the party. To my mind, it's the same kind of quasi-canon status as the Battle Royales, where the prize won in the battle was used in the main campaign.
 * But it was never included as a CR special because it wasn't one. LynnE216 (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * There is a period that would have been "years ago" but after Vox Machina already met: The 6 months of downtime in which Greyskull Keep was built. While it isn't confirmed that it took place in that time, there is enough "wiggle room" so to speak for it to take place then. The same time period is when the quasi-canon may have taken place. The characters Dupont Dupont and The Headmistress were also present in that special. Additionally, in CelebriD&D is when Arkhan got the vestige Wreath of the Prism, which he has later in his appearance in Critical Role.


 * Speaking of which by the way, there's another special that was forgotten about and never got a page, "Kickstarter Campaign End Party with Joel Hodgson!".--OccidentalAvian (talk) 00:07, 25 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't think there's any question it's at least quasi-canon. It's just not a CR special. LynnE216 (talk) 00:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks both for explaining the episode status! I'm not too worried about whether it's canon or not, I'm referring only to the properties of the page and infobox itself. Given the name of the show it's from, what would you think about adding this to a new subcategory of Category:Episodes like Category:CelebriD&D episodes instead of Category:Specials, where it is currently the only 'special' episode listed that does not and will never have a SxNN episode code? (Also if it's not actually a CR special!) This new category could be also be a subcategory of Specials if you think that's preferable. SeiverEl (talk) 00:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Honestly, like, the fact that D&Diesel is considered a special (also CelebriD&D) but this isn't exposes a flaw in the Specials list. Either both are, or both aren't. ~FreckledMcCree (Send me a message!) 00:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, that is bad. If we remove the Special episode code from D&Diesel, the special numbers would be missing one. And if we added a Special episode code to this episode with the next available SxNN number, it would be out of order chronologically. It would not be hard with AWB/JWB/Pywikibot to renumber the codes either way though, everywhere they are used. This episode aired between and, and more importantly, between  and . If this were to become the new Sx16, every higher Sx value could be changed to SxN+1. Or if we removed the code for , every higher Sx value could be changed to SxN-1. No matter what, we should make sure that we follow a consistent rule going forward. SeiverEl (talk) 04:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A happy update since the re-location: Now that episodes have been renumbered and renamed, this page is now categorized and numbered as a one-shot: . ElSeiver (talk) 00:14, July 2, 2022 (UTC)